Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis and Reverse T3 Thyroid

Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis and Reverse T3 Thyroid

 

Hashimoto's can affect normal T3 and T4 physiology]

Hashimoto’s Auto Immune Thyroiditis

Hashimoto’s is an auto-immune condition.  Where your body sees thyroid as “foreign” or “not self.”  This stimulates production of antibodies against to your own thyroid.  There are a host of auto immune conditions including Sjogren’s (Sicca Syndrome). Lupus, Scleroderma, CREST Syndrome and Rheumatoid Arthritis.

[Important note: It is vital to recognize that the TSH test is being used as a screening test.  See previous blog.  It will not diagnose Hashimoto’s.  It will totally miss this condition for years.]

We measure two antibodies.  Anti-thyroglobulin (matrix of the thyroid gland) and TPO (thyroid peroxidase).   TPO is essential to the conversion of T4 to T3.   Either of these can rise with Hashimoto’s.   It is more common to see a rise in the TPO.    This condition usually results in Hypothyroidism (under active thyroid) by interfering with the normal conversions.   The normal flow is T4 converts to the active form T3.  The more technical term is Hashimoto’s Autoimmune Thyroiditis.  It can occasionally result in the opposite.  That is, hyperthyroidism (over active thyroid) during a more acute or sub acute inflammatory phase.   Thyroiditis means inflammation of the thyroid.

What causes Hashimoto’s?  This is not really well known.  There are various theories.  You will read that there are genetic factors.  And, it is far more common in women than men.  It is quite unusual in men.

 

Speculative (unproven) theories

  • Halides (group VIIa of the periodic chart) — bromine, fluorine, and Iodine. Iodine is the key constituent of thyroid.   T4 (tetra-iodo-thyronine) has 4 iodine molecules. T3 (tri-iodo-thyronine) has 3 iodines.   Bromide, Fluoride and Choline (all halides) might interfere with the actions of iodine.  Bromide is found in bread,  Fluoride is found in drinking water and toothpaste.   Chorine and chloride are ubiquitous.
  • Gluten sensitivity. This is empirically quite real.  Every patient treated with a gluten free diet will experience a fall in antibodies levels.   We theorize that gluten adheres to the gut enteric wall.  This induces an auto immune response.  The thyroid is a key target of all auto immune responses.
  • Post-partum transfer of fetal blood during delivery. This was a common theory.  Tiny amounts of blood from fetal circulation induce an auto-immune response.    This does not explain why men develop Hashimoto’s
  • Could estrogen play a role? It is far more common in women than men.

Treatment of Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis

The goal is “put the thyroid at rest.”   A gluten free diet is essential   And then aggressive thyroid suppression.   Let’s define basic therapeutic forms:

Pure T4 (none of these are identical):

  • levo-Thyroxine (generic)
  • Synthroid
  • Levoxyl
  • Tirosint

Pure T3

  • Liothyronine (Cytomel) — a synthetic
  • Tri-iodo-l-thyronine

Mixed T3 and T4 (usually desiccated):

  • Desiccated Thyroid (Avicel)
  • Armour Thyroid
  • NatureThroid
  • Westhroid
  • Thyrolar

Antibody formation can be reduced by suppressing the TSH.   This is done by increasing T4 and T3.  That down-regulates the auto immune response.  We can treat with a pure T4.  Occasionally, treat with a combination T3/T4.  Or a pure T3 (compounded tri-iodo-l-thyronine) .   See previous blog discussion.   This is based on absolute T3 values and the ratio of T3/T4.   We reject by rigid orthodoxy or dogmatic thinking.    Treating you, the patient, based on your own situation.

A New Novel Treatment – LDN

More recently, another more novel approach has proven successful.   Low dose Naltrexone (LDN).   At high doses, Naltrexone is an opioid and endorphin inhibitor.   It reverses opioid over-doses.  But at very low doses it has the opposite effect.  It has a transient blocking effect. That causes a physiologic counter-reaction.  So it increases endorphins (the feel good hormone neuro-transmitter).   There seems to be a connection with increased endorphins and mitigation of auto-immune conditions.   Hashimoto’s and Crohn’s are the most significant targets.   Now here is some additional reading — The LDN Book.

How Does Reverse T3 Cause Hypothyroidism?

Reverse T3 is over expressed by stress or internal imbalances (selenium deficiency).   The RT3 is a mirror image of T3.   It can interfere (compete) with the physiologic action of T3.  This can cause  hypothyroidism even if the T3 appears to be normal.

Reverse T3 is a mirror image of T3

Through empirical observation, we have found that treating abnormal RT3 with a pure T4 will only worsen the condition. It will increase the production of more RT3.  So a pure T3 is a better and more rational approach.   It by-passes this pathological conversion state.

T4 converts to T3 or abnormally to reverse T3

This is another instance where a simple TSH screening is inadequate.   It will fail to diagnose this condition.   Therefore, we repeat again.  Ask for a complete and comprehensive thyroid lab survey.  What does that include?   You want a free T4, free T3, thyroid antibodies and reverse T3.   This concludes part 3 of our thyroid series.

8 thoughts on “Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis and Reverse T3 Thyroid

  1. Thank you for posting. I cannot give you a complete answer. There is no free T4. And you did not include thyroid antibodies. At first glance, these numbers appear to be “normal.” And I do not know whether you are being treated with any thyroid preparation. There are instances where thyroid numbers are completely “normal” but the patient still suffers from clinical hypothyroidism. In the literature this is called subclinical hypothyroidism. But rather refers to the inability to completely diagnose thyroid dysfunction strictly with numbers alone.

    This is where the therapy of thyroid dysfunction requires experience and an integrative approach. You can write me directly at [email protected] for more discussion.

  2. Thank you for writing. There has been some significant discussion of interference with thyroid testing and the B vitamin biotin. Biotin is very important when taking large doses of alpha lipoic acid. But apparently it can interfere with thyroid testing. It is a complex process. Personally, I have not been able to identify this problem. But it is being reported with increasing frequency.

    Here’s an interesting quote:

    When your lab results don’t make sense in terms of the clinical picture, or in terms of the constellation of lab results you have received, you should always think first of an assay interference — one of which is biotin — before you think of really exotic reasons for this to have happened, such as TSH-secreting pituitary tumors.” — Stefan K. Grebe, MD, PhD,

    So in all likelihood, that is what they are referencing. Ask for a repeat or a more detailed explanation. And then write back to me again.

  3. I recently got my thyroid tests back and the lab could not test my reverse T3 because something in my blood work was interfering with the test.
    What would cause this and what should I be asking my doctor to do now?

  4. Can you explain my results
    Free T3/ Reverse T3 Ratio 2.68
    Free T3 330 pg/dL
    Reverse T3 123 pg/mL
    TSH (Refl) 1.09 mIU/L

    I am constantly gaining weight, losing tons of hair, and loss of appetite.

  5. Thank you for writing. It is difficult to give you a precise answer. It is obvious that you have hypothyroidism. I cannot tell the degree to which you are suffering from Hashimoto’s as the antibodies are not stated here. You have used various combinations. We use long acting triiodothyronine which may be the same as sustained action liothyronine. Simple liothyronine (Cytomel) is too short acting and ineffective as it must be dosed three times daily. We also find Levoxyl or Tirosint is superior to Synthroid.

    There may be other factors in your pain syndrome. This is a challenging problem. You may want to call us for further information and relief.

  6. Hello,
    I have Hashemite disease. My last blood test was 5 weeks ago
    TSH was 19
    T3 b
    About 2
    I’ve been on Armor prior to last blood test and it absolutely worsened my levels
    I’m now on 175 mcg synthroid &
    (2) 5 mcg in the AM Liothyronine
    I am experiencing a level 15 with my periphal & brachial neuropathy
    I am usually at a 8 pain level and take (4) methadone a day
    I’m severely fatigued and has worsened since the Liothyronine

  7. Thank you for your comments. Everyone is an individual. I demonstrate that my approach is flexible for each patient. There is no one size fits all. There is a rational approach to determining which preparation is appropriate for you.

  8. I have been successfully treated for hypothyroidism with WP Thyroid , which is produced by the same company that makes Naturethryoid.

    TSH is irrelevant. the free T4 should be in a low normal range; Free T3 should be in the high normal range;reverse T3 should not be elevated. and obviously your hair should not be falling out-you should not be having any body temperature dysregulations, with ice cold freezing and shivering and body temps really low such as 96’s or below 97.8 and with temps reaching at least 98.6 during waking hours with higher at some activities. I had the antibody and tpo tests Free and total T4 and T3, reverse T3, T3 uptake, and a lipid panel.When taking WP thyroid my lipids became optimal. WP thyroid has no artificial ingredients as armour thyroid does. The only additives in WP thyroid are mct oil and some fiber from chikory.

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